Now its great discussion. 25:11 Is this the first #KentuckySnub? Its not worth it. yeah, 90% of market that probably didnt even know that it was like Kentucky, only six year product. 5:47 The barrels would be stored in a single storied warehouse and probably have no more than 500 barrels in storage at a time. The sale of Black Velvet Canadian Whisky from Constellation Brands to Heaven Hill is expected to close in the second half of 2019, subject to regulatory approval. The best way to prevent these fires is to have a well-trained workforce that takes fire safety seriously. 1:06:19 Im Blake from bourbon or you can find me on all the inter webs and social medias Bo you are Bo in our calm as well as seal box calm as well. While some speculate that the disaster was caused by a lightning strike, a true source has never been determined. They are also going to see dead and dying fish. More such units (and even stronger demons) will continue to spawn here if the AC remains high enough. Now granted, you could say that he could offer it to other retailers or other customers who were frequently buying but the whole market in general right now is pretty underpriced. But yeah, thats I think its a throwback to our roundtable back in 20, late 2015, maybe 2016, something like that. I do think that it is a good sign that in all of the fires of the past 25 years, there has only been one death in Kentucky due to a distillery fire and that was an artisan distillery Silver Springs, when the still exploded. Its estimated somewhere around like 45,000 barrels may have been lost in the gym be warehouse fire. What makes sense, but part of its an educated consumers part of is just that demand and part of its in some cases 250 bucks. Ill make sure I put it in. Whiskey production changed after the American Civil War. It was tragic to me those this and people keep calling it the beam fire, which of course it is. And you can also find me on corn calm and bourbon justice calm. They dont have sufficient sprinkler systems like the new ones. Witnesses reported seeing whiskey barrels explode and rocket across the sky like shooting stars . You know, its only available in Kentucky enjoy it, you know, that kind of a thing. You know, do you want to say it a year before its ready, you know, because they went from six to seven, you know, or was it. And everybody that was on the chat. And I just kind of took it took it in stride. Hey everybody it is Episode 209 of bourbon pursuit. Yeah. Containment systems around warehouses were often built to keep burning alcohol from spreading to other buildings. And so while it is very frustrating, and very. I mean, youre right. From 1939 until 2019, Heaven Hill released a 6-year-old Bottled-in-Bond bourbon available exclusively in Kentucky. But its where you want to position as a retailer, your store, you know, youre seeing retailers online, you know, if you want to have a wide selection, you cant put everything on at MSRP because its going to be gone and you dont have a selection. Look for a new segment called Whiskey Quickie launching next week. I know that you all with blogs, like theres theres tips on how to be a good barber consumer, you know, shop at the same store, making sure that youre buying the right place and manner. Hellfire spell creates the Hellfire improvement on the tile, destroying other improvements. It was just, it was just a it was a great value for what it was. Hope I didnt blow it. Yes, its not like youve done this 200 or something. Well, yeah, its its close to that. And so you kind of look at it and youre like, well, if heaven Hill really wants to make money off the enthusiasm really care about them. And they basically basically just said, like, no, its fine. listeners a chance to experience the hear directly from them. 25:36 Yep. Like hey, lets let I was gonna use upon us. Like they could eventually get to the day where theyre saying like no, like, were not allowing anybody else in the warehouses, like were getting a hard hat or anything like that, you know, I mean, Kenny and I experienced that for Barton pick 79 to pick and you know, there was lightning in the air and theyre like, no way were gonna do it inside and its not as fun, you know, being in a little tasting room, but luckily the skies cleared and they let us go back in there. I mean, Ive heard estimates says is like $270 million in losses. The Vault: The historic 1996 fire at Heaven Hill Distillery However, should you support businesses like this and, 1:04:12 The constant update of safety requirements may minimize the impact of such incidents, but the risks are there. So. Its called bourbon on the banks. So its something we need to the community needs take serious and you know, the the distilleries as well. And I know retailers get hit with like a split case charge and in some cases where theyre paying an extra three bucks a bottle or something. It looks like its not going to be available. I mean, if this happened 10 years ago, probably barely be a blip. sweating a lot. And thats not the bourbon world. 56:00 Yeah, thats you and you know, you mentioned that humidity I look at is a good thing. Do you think this was the right move by Heaven Hill to. 52:00 Because I always like to think that Im walking and Im sweating. Yeah, they just went up. 32:37 This is what happens. So he actually did pretty well with that. It made me show up free, 10:26 Its just. I wrote something about this. And the Kentuckys division of Fish and Wildlife is already characterizing this bill as a severe fish kill. Its okay. Brian Harras Sazerac Brands v. Peristyle: Bourbon History Matters as a Matter of Law . Production increased since distilling had improved with more distilleries using column stills with an increased daily production rising to hundreds of barrels per day. Thats the armor campaign. 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Brian was sipping corn Si, p p n c o r n. You can find me mostly on Twitter a little bit on Instagram and Facebook. And that was definitely our longest dive in anything. Im not at all surprised even when it happened. 23:17 I think it would be so awesome if they did that. Thats more than the population of Kentucky. But sure fires happen. 19:00 Only one minor clarification. Sure. No camping out, you just, you know flip, just go on your own and its there. 26:05 And you should be able to trust a store more. Not a Vendome still that exploded it should be noted. Or can you get coverage that you can afford? Spirit shipped right to your. Exactly. I would be like, I dont know. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Now, youre asking the question, saying, well, this maybe isnt, you know, and you know, to that the price might be the same for the next 10 years. I just dont understand but but I will say that I am wearing my heaven Hill hat tonight to make sure that I am showing support for the brand because I still love the brand. But uh, anyways, I dont care. So that means you three to six months after its released. And theres another store just outside of Lawrenceburg that charges jacked up prices. So you got to speak to that group. It is an industry that has inherent dangers from fire since the product is very flammable, the barrel is flammable and the risk of fire is always there when making whiskey. seminar and the Katie a was had a presenter there. Recently a fire at the Jim Beam warehouse facility at the Old Crow Distillery destroyed 45,000 barrels of aging Bourbon. Where everything is going, you know, where it does really come across as heres a representation of us. there and then. But, you know, it reminds me of like one of my favorite comedians is Daniel Tosh. Okay, good. And its kind of funny its like I think about it now thinking back I was like yeah well maybe maybe when is that that boundary or that you know whenever Can you say something about it and and I guess in this light you look at it you say well at this point it is a financial loss there was nobody that was hurt there were people that put their lives on the line but it wasnt to the point where you know its its not like any of us had like a barrel in there that was like our thing and were like running in there to go save it right it was it was just like it was a contained fire. So you know, was it because they wanted more momentum in other states first or, you know, was there a concern that it was going to be received or perceived really negatively? Dont fool us. You can read more about this fungus and how its plaguing neighboring towns from an article on but by Vice calm, which can be found in our show notes. Yeah, but you have to camp here to get it. And then you start to, 7:00 Its, its a travesty, really. So glad to be here. So to with the Ezra I think that was recognized right away you know, so part of that is that value proposition you know just just just thinking about what you know he always comes into play when you when you think value and you know you get this weird dichotomy with smaller craft distillers where stuffs coming out for higher prices but then in some cases people like Gods its craft its not kind of recognized yet Im unless you want to support them. It is the 5 th distillery fire in Kentucky since 1996 when the Heaven Hill fire destroyed their distillery. Theres also going to be food vendors from regional award winning chefs. like go to bye bye present with your kid at Target and be like, okay, Ill go hide in the closet some Christmas. The family-owned and operated spirits company announced plans Wednesday to build a $135 million distillery expected to open by 2024 at Bardstown in the heart . Like the modern the everyday consumer has no idea and you pointed them to the bourbon or Nashville breakdowns. It was Silver Trail Distillery that exploded a few years ago, not Silver Springs. a two-mile long stretch of the creek that supplied process water to the distillery was set ablaze for a brief time." [9] You know, the Barton side that most certainly could have been a problem because there was maybe lack of oversight in regards of maintenance or something like that. There you go. brands. The annoying thing is like the winners and like the Elmer tease that youre like, seriously, like, I get the pack fees and like, well, its being like, the everyday that were like, 30 bucks a bottle like, why is it 120 $200 a bottle thats just stupid. You cant yet do not camp for Elmer. Was this the right move by Heaven hill? Its this is what youre paying, you know, type of thing. But before we do that, you know, dive into more of it. There you go. We never intended this podcast to be about Reiner. Yeah, absolutely. The biggest threat of fire now comes from the weather. And theyre delicious, but I just couldnt pull the trigger on the elders, especially at that inflated price. It has been ranked as one of the world's best . So I think that plays into it in this case as well. Heaven Hill - Wikipedia Hellfire | Fall from Heaven Wiki | Fandom Perfect. I appreciate being on that Brian, that was the two year storage experiment. 40. Pick up their debut album "Favourite Mistake" here! Distilleries kept firefighting equipment on site and trained employees in its use. So it definitely is a scalar. Im thinking more when youre paying 154 Elmer thats where you dont do that. But as soon as that kind of came up and and we started a band around the idea, I think it just stuck and so we went with so how many more riff ideas are there going to be out there? 52:33 In 2018 when Heaven Hill announced that it would be discontinued, bourbon lovers were sad to hear the news. Proudly powered by. Its going to happen. 57:20 Well, like that. And its unfortunate to an extent but at some point its like, you know what else are we cant just sit here and mourn the loss of barrels as well you know, as long as nobody got hurt, 22:16 And its good to see a lot of the comments really come through because it really does show the passion that this community does have behind a lot of these brands and really what it does mean to it. I wouldnt want to be cross check the reference, you know, for for my facts. And to my knowledge, this is the first one that kind of gave the Kentucky snub. The still house would not be in the aging warehouse and the biggest threat of fire came from the distilling process itself, because of the wood fired stills. . Thats what you do. 11:56 In the bourbon community and what we should expect when something like this happens when theres millions and millions of dollars on the line for a very large organization, there are firefighters that are sitting there trying to contain the fire that are trying not to spread to peoples homes in the area, and people are just just making jokes at him. With Eric Roberts, Jrgen Prochnow, Venus Terzo, Kaj-Erik Eriksen. In when it is airborne. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. You know, why would Jamie sit there and sell it for $300? And I think it does step outside that boundary of everythings overwhelmingly high value. I do. warehouses are grandfathered. 1:17:33 You know, being the ones to to get the good margins from this, you know, better than the guy just sitting in his car, taking a crotch shot and throwing it on a Facebook group. So, 54:00 So I think I think the answer to your question Kenny, when I was out at a bourbon event at a different city, and I met some people that just started drinking bourbon six months ago they had no ideal that Eagle rare Buffalo Trace and all you know under that same Nashville were the same exact Nashville and theyre like what youre kidding me. Heaven Hill to Acquire Black Velvet Canadian Whisky from Constellation 25:01 Should this be considered normal? said that the department Fish and Wildlife Resources is on the river again, and they are continuing to assess the fish count killed and the results are continue to penned. Learn how your comment data is processed. 32:00 What Bourbon Distillery Catches Fire? I totally understand why theyre doing it. I mean, I dont want to be a jerk but I havent bought Elmer probably. Im like, all right, its maxed out like were gonna hit you know, its but and but now Im kind of stilted. Uncorked and tasted in The Year of No 10:03 Yeah, I mean it. We want it to be go to the store and you can buy it, you know, that type of thing. I mean, lets take a step back and think about it like, is this really like the current state of affairs of what we see? Subscribe To Get This Issue. She was saying that 60% of $1 for your spirits purchase in Kentucky goes to Texas. So its not something I could regularly get. Theres no question theres a high value. So lets get on with the bourbon Community Roundtable where we discuss the cultural implications of the Jim Beam fire as well as heaven hills seven year bottled in bond release. Yeah, thats the insomnia cure it is maybe just just go to the to the parts where I quote the fellow bloggers and then be done. Now the other side of this is perhaps it wasnt their favorite, right? MSRP=$130. Vintage Aerial Coverage of 1996 Heaven Hill Distillery Fire Yes. I mean, theyre one of the you know, probably top 10 poorest states in the if not even higher than in the in the country. is legitimately its its legitimate, but actually, 28:00 Im losing weight, but maybe its just not that maybe it really is just the humidity. So youll see that the man behind the man I think a little bit more here this year. In this was the Jim Beam warehouse fire. Ive seen Ken Griffey Jr. Ive seen Rick James. Its still a pretty small percentage that even acknowledges that. Sure, absolutely. I stupid? coming off the bench, like it. Sprinkler systems were added to warehouses. So wrestlers mom, Striffler, you know, so Steve sticklers, everybody they can relate to that, interestingly, just had a 20 year reunion so that movie actually came out American Pie came out during the summer after graduation of high school and before college so needless to say it was a fun summer. Its in maybe dusty on the shelf for 12 bucks in Kentucky, and then it kind of got discovered. It is the 5 th distillery fire in Kentucky since 1996 when the Heaven Hill fire destroyed their distillery. Hey, thanks. So it is really odd that it didnt start in Kentucky. Heaven Hill phased out their 6 Year Bottled in Bond product that was a true bargain brand to many bourbon consumers and launched a very similar product with a 3X price increase. So I mean, theres not a lot of people with disposable incomes that can just drop money on expensive Barbs all the time, but we spend it on rep tickets and bourbon and that. Why shouldnt the the retailer take advantage of that? Its so before we dive into it, Brian did I see something it was posted by Brad at little bit earlier today. Guys were gonna make some more money so right, 48:04 No one was hurt, and the damage wasn't as widespread as some other disasters, but about 4,000 barrels were affected,. Ping Pong match. But he said that he was quoted in one of your I dont want to say like dissertation. I think this is going to be it could be one of those pivotal moves we start seeing in regards to the market and how things, 1:00:00 yall pay way too much attention to bourbon like just take a backseat on this one. Its just the beginning. And they know that the that the product was undervalued. Thats k. 57:00 Yeah. So I have the perfect solution. Heaven hills six year bottle and bond and I take it back home with me its some of the best bourbon at $12 a you know 750 ml that you can get on the shelves. Heaven Hill is bringing its Heaven Hill Bottled-in-Bond 7-Year Bourbon after discontinuing its six-year counterpart, but this comes with a catch. Hi, this is Joe Beatrice from barrell craft spirits. So by Reza lightning hopefully doesnt strike twice in the right spot or the single sure, but the the. Why? Yeah, and white but sweating out those demons. So so we got a few more riff puns, I think still available but riff a mania. Steam power replaced the wood fire for distilling, but boiler technology was still in its infancy. Show Notes the podcast so you can go and check that out at your own leisure because it is it is a long long thing to read. I also want you to kind of talk about that one. Heaven Hill to revive its whiskey production in its hometown - Yahoo News So but like I said, well well save that for another topic on another night but you know, gentlemen, I want to say thank you again for joining us on tonights roundtable was a good discussion talking about the you know, the Jim Beam stuff that heaven Hill stuff and then as well as this so as usual, Im going to let you all kind of give a ability to give a shout out of where you are blog and where they can find you and everything like that and well start off how we started like with you first.